So…hey Heath where are all those lab and diabetic tests you have promised myriad people all over the internet over the years? WHAT? Kudos to you and all that you've been thru to get at the truth of Julian Bakery's so called Low carb bread. To that I say: bollocks. Like the debacle with Dreamfields fraudulent “low carb” pasta shows, these claims do not necessarily have anything to do with reality. I know there are many people who follow Dr. Eenfeldt and I myself have posted on this blog regarding Julian Bakery. I never had JB bread, though considered ordering it. 6:45am 121 I ordered the sample pack before that included a loaf of the bread, bag of pasta and some snacks (brownies, muffins, cookies). Is the Omega Power Bread your own original recipe as you say, or are you perhaps purchasing 44 lb. Any Type I diabetic, and I mean in no uncertain terms, (100%) needs to inject insulin. He stole the idea, and then managed to create red tape to keep the original company from making them. Just wanted to replay to Deborah's comment above with this article: Since Heath Squier posted what he wanted to above, where many of you will see it, and posted this in an obscure place somewhere else on the Diet Doctor’s website where not many people would ever find it, I thought I would help him out and post it for him here too. I find it strange that you are not a diabetic and you test your blood sugar but whatever. It is people like Gary Collins (3 products), shane wilkes (3 products), PenName (4 products), LowCarbPaleoGirl (4 products), Crossfit Mommy (4 Products),Ronnie Joe (3 products), and Corie Oviedo (2 Products) who ruin the idea of reading unbiased reviews on Amazon or anywhere else online for that matter. In a Type I diabetic, there is ZERO insulin produced to allow glucose to enter cells, so sugar builds up in the bloodstream where it can cause life-threatening complications. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 15167 on r2-app-087a8bcb50b46e8f6 at 2020-12-23 23:40:16.633252+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: GE. Hi folks: Do you have anything to say about Jacob's low carb pita and lavash? I asked if it was accurate, and told them that I had gained weight from her food (in a very nice manner by the way) and surprise! She claims her items are low carb, diabetic friendly, low calorie, but they have white flour, heavy cream, and other high calorie ingredients. Here are a couple of examples from Jimmy Moore’s blog: “We test our bread all the time with Type 1 & Type 2 diabetics and will be posting our results at within the next couple of weeks. Our Keto Thin® Bread has the perfect keto macros, boasts 12g of healthy fat, and 8g of protein. I don't usually gain weight unless I over eat by A LOT (like a lot means whole jar of peanut butter and half a pizza over a weekend). With 5,200+newly diagnosed diabetics daily he has an absolutely incredible new market…EVERYDAY. So if they’re willing to engage that kind of liability by making such a claim, I’ll take it as credible. After finding out that the products I trusted as far as their label were all lies (Eat-Rite Pizza, Julian bread and Carb Crunchers bagels), I've become suspicious of all so-called, healthy, low-fat, low-carb label claims. (self.keto). The ThinSlim bagels do not raise my blood sugar (which doesn't surprise me due to their taste :-)), but the Health Wise bagels do, but not as much as the Carb Crunchers. I did pay full price to try the cinnamon bagels... they also let me down. I have a question for you Issac. It's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. These guys should be sued for false advertising! Another of the other many chickenshit lawsuit charges filed against me was that I was costing Heath $200,000 per month in revenue. I want to do keto for life but I would like to have things that I can indulge occasionally. Shipping is free if you order over $100. His idea was to squelch my first amendment right to free speech and to “make me pay” which is what Heath has posted several times elsewhere. Off topic posts include: cheat posts, posts about other diets/others that are not eating keto, "farewell" posts, posts asking how to stop keto and resume a "normal" diet, etc. I finished the bag but would never order again. [–]mihappy[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child), [–]ReverseLazarusKETO MOD SD: Nov 2017 - 34F/SW215/CW135 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), My pleasure. Heath Squier himself did his own n=1 experiment and with a fasting BGL of 99 mg/dl and peaked at 133 mg/dl- again relatively normal for a non-diabetic, although his blood sugar later crashed and that is yet another story. You might start by scouring Jimmy Moore’s website. My last post was over four months ago. The owner of Julian Bakery has no scruples and creates fake positive review to increase sales. Yeah, I posted a comment further down in this thread about it. I add extra cinnamon powder on top of a huge shhhmear of cream cheese. Sami’s has been involved in scandal before and it may by read about here: The bagels were “okay” at best but not worth the $7 price tag and they have an eggy taste to them even when toasted. Taste? My order of preference: I haven't tried the pasta or the salad dressing yet. With this bread, you can clearly see grains are the top ingredient. which is under-weight by 1.75oz. .0084573 is the microscopic percentage of my Total Hits vs just all the video views and the above figures DO NOT include the hundreds & hundreds of permanently written reviews on Yelp, Google, The DietDoctor, and various other websites. This website lives out off membership so I am not surprised of the continues attack on these companies...not very neutral and objective!!! Reddit is not a replacement for your doctor. 2.a: Why no cheat posts? The low carb community is a little different as they were (just) being cheated, lied to, duped, and stolen from (as if that wasn’t enough). Thanks. The information we provide at is not intended to replace consultation with a qualified medical professional. I don’t buy that for one minute. The pasta and bread are good but I hate the backed goods. It is the closest thing that you can buy that almost, kinda sorta, maybe if I close my eyes and don't think about it, taste like real bread. And as we know that this is what happens, this post will also pass and people will forget or lose interest which is why I feel it is important continuing to let people know. [–]romancement 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (5 children), [–]ketogirlfromucf30/F/5'6" SW: 230 CW: 169 GW: 140 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children), [–]romancement 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children). [–]Shadow29326M 6'1 SW:295 CW:251.6 GW:180 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). I was able to obtain a good image of him that he has no rights to and his logo? it is a fairly big loaf though so it is worth the money imo. all i can do is report on my experience and that of many, many others i know personally. The honey is the best imo. Well I have. and join one of thousands of communities. Deborah knows this and now will pay the price legally for lying about the Julian Bakery. I keep mine in the freezer, and pop them in the microwave for 20 seconds per slice when I am ready to eat them. It's very obvious that Julian Bakery made the decision to mis-represent their products which lead to (and could have lead to) all sorts of issues. Remember: No one is ever going to die by not eating bread. Does this mean getting rid of bread completely or is there an alternative? I’ll bet they were doozies. After eating 2 pieces of bread? I've made homemade low carb paleo bread from almond and coconut flours before, but the Julian's is much more convenient. Doug was questioning JB’s breads in early 2010, about 1½ years before Dr. Eenfeldt and Jimmy Moore did their first (respective) negative Julian Bakery Posts in 2011 and almost 2½ years before I came along. It's DELICIOUS and doesn't mess with my weight loss or my ketosis (I'm 10 months in). I'm more concerned about too much soy in my diet. 7:15am 109 [–]ReverseLazarusKETO MOD SD: Nov 2017 - 34F/SW215/CW135 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (2 children). On a blog post that began on April 13th, 2009 with a review of JB’s Smart Carb#1 bread and as far back as mid March of 2010 on Heath was talking about working with a lab and nutritionist (I assume his mother Barbara as he keeps calling her that). 3.) As Stated By Sami’s Bakery 1 bagel 86g Exova Laboratoy Results 1 bagel 86g, Calories 256 Calories 240 I also had these products lab tested. that's all. Jeff took about half a unit of humalog insulin to cover 1g net carbohydrate. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. What about Eziekel 4:9 sprouted grains bread? And don’t forget the colored headers at the top of a Google search-it costs lots of money to be at the very top of that banner. Rendered by PID 15167 on r2-app-087a8bcb50b46e8f6 at 2020-12-23 23:40:16.633252+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: GE. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Next up for testing: Julian Bakery’s delicious Smart Carb bread. Don't settle for low carb babels that taste awful or … Again, these products are not low carb. Not very paleo but it's low carb. Low Carb Skinny Keto Bagels Reduced Cheese Version (Without using a Microwave ... 8:04. - Thank You”. These sorts of posts may result in a permanent ban with no prior warning. Unlike traditional high calorie (190-300) and high carb (35-50) bagels made from fast digesting white flour and other unhealthy ingredients, ThinSlim Foods Zero Carb Protein Bagels are super low in calories, … Are we to believe that it takes about an hour for chlorine to dissipate out of water (which is after all put into water to kill bacteria) and that Gary Collins just happened to have some 9 to 10 month old Pure Wraps papers stored somewhere and sent the paper to be tested? I'm hoping I can find it for less at a health food store. That said, the Omega Power Bread sent to me by Issac Sander in New York seems to “pass” the low carb test as far as I am concerned. I have found that as long as I do not exceed 2 slices a day, I stay in perfect Ketosis. But for those of us who were loyal customers, no matter the carb count, it really sucks that a product we've grown to really love just disappear. Don't settle for low carb bagels that tastes awful or … Fast forward nearly 3 years to July 18th, 2013 to a hurried and ridiculously pithy interview with Gary Collins where Heath pleads ignorance. Let’s compare it to the ingredients of low-carb bread from Thin Slim foods: “Wheat protein isolate, oat fiber, vital Deborah, I saw you on Fox 5 regarding Carb Crunchers bread and bagels. I hope most of you know whenever, wherever, and whatever I have written in any of several places that I always identify myself including contact information-so, this is me Deborah Krueger, writing to let you know what has happened in the last several months regarding the Heath Squier-Julian Bakery vs Deborah Krueger lawsuit. Not good but easily remedied. Yeah it is. Please see the Community Guidelines for a more detailed explanation of what types of comments are in violation of this rule. Heath’s quote to Doug Varrieus at in what appears as an email exchange with Heath “Doug, Our NUTRITIONAL LABEL was CAREFULLY CALCULATED by **WORKING WITH A LAB** and **NUTRITIONIST** that calculated the nutritional information of each ingredient based on the amounts we used plus the additional benefit of each grain being sprouted which aids in increased fiber and digestion of our bread”. I used to buy their bagels from a diet store in NJ and they also raised my blood sugar. Directed by Heath perhaps? I live in Australia and we have Herman Brot bread and pasta. I maybe ate her baked goods a few times a week. The loaf itself is about half the size of a … Try to catch it during one of their deals - it’s worth a shot since there are mixed reviews and you might like it! If it tastes like bread.. its bread.. its not low carb!, [–]ketokate-oKETO MOD F/29/5’3” 195/135/happy 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Sodium ions are basic in reaction while the chloride ions are acidic and they are together responsible for the acid base equilibrium in the body. I can't find much info about her, or other people complaining other that a few reviews online with people stating the same thing as me, and her same BS response. I am a type 1 diabetic and can eat 60g carbs and as long as my basal and bolus insulin levels are correct then my BG will not spike 60 mg/dl like Jimmy Moore's did. Personally I take amazon reviews with a grain of salt. I made a much better one. Lol. the ingredients are readily available by reading the label or going online. Its BS. But I will say this; I would love to have been a fly on the paperwork as Heath lied his way into Whole Foods. In addition to being off-topic, cheat posts are specifically against the rules of this subreddit because they are negative, defeatist, and can serve as a trigger to those who are struggling. [–]kdeezey 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). That was your job right? Are you kidding me? Has anyone tried ThinSlim zero carb bread? Is that healthy? I eat it have for about 3 years, I only eat on slice at a time and usually just once a day, I tested my blood sugar before and after and it never spiked. For me the diet doctor rolls are the best bread substitute that I have tried. [–]stahlidity 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (3 children). With another 1,000% year over year increase that could be somewhere near 1,000,000 mostly DIABETIC CUSTOMERS. 503-282-1299. I tested my blood sugar after eating a plain bagel and it only went to 107, so I'm sold. The desserts were the worst - lacked flavored, mushy/squishy consistency and wierd aftertaste. personally I crave buttered toast sometimes and that really hits the spot. I toasted one up and it was AMAZING! I have ask them to please go back to the old formula with no response. Some of the brands of low carb breads they sell that I've tried and liked (but cost more than I'd like): I do a Netrition order two or three times per year, waiting until my cart has $99 worth of items to get the free shipping. I also got a pack of bagels. And then check out Laura Dolson. this bakery has NO customer service please do not get there bread!! sacks of PowerFlax Golden Low Carb Flax Rye Bread Base from Red Square in Vancouver, BC and adding your own water and yeast? Today 3:26 Not by eating fake LC products. One of the reasons Heath was not granted his initial Temporary Restraining Order is that the judge felt it would not only stifle my right to free speech but that the subject matter was certainly important and in the public’s interest, and particularly important to public health. Last I knew, you couldn't make bread with just flaxseed meal, rye meal, gluten, water, yeast and salt. The father himself is a Type II and to use his word his blood glucose level “ZOOMED”. and i've no interest in getting involved in the ugliness of this thread, which prompts ppl like yourself to make false accusations out of ignorance. What’s The Taste Of Thin Slim Foods? Well I gained 10 lbs that month, with her baked goods being the only change to my lifestyle-in fact, I was in a range I should have been LOSING slightly (been less hungry) and I was exercising MORE. (See Below). I don't do well on wheat, but I do eat the Julian's Bakery coconut flour and almond flour breads. SHE WAS POISONED AND SHE KNEW IT. True. my local market couldn't keep it in stock there was such a huge This only takes a second or so, and be sure to let the little red heart come up. I see no reason to take these marketing claims at face value. I remember using it to make a sandwich and being all excited about bringing a sandwich to work for lunch. (I have a list of them in California) Remember this: in a class action lawsuit no one pays any attorney fees. Believe me this is the envy and dream of every company worldwide. My attorney spoke with the head honcho attorney of Whole Foods and he was assured I did not interfere with anything. i used it as stated in my comment, and had results as reported. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for ThinSlim Foods Keto Low Carb Bagels - Everything, 2 Pack (6 Bagels Each) at Is there a bread that can be made at home that is truly low in carb, or is that a pipe dream? Thousands and thousands of loaves of bread. As Dr. Eenfeldt has given this post the title GIVE JULIAN BAKERY WHAT THEY DESERVE this is how each of you, individually, can cost Heath Squier and the Julian Bakery a little money and it is so easy. I doubt anyone reading anything Gary has posted regarding Julian Bakery resembles anything close to being “the Switzerland” which for those of you not familiar with the term merely means “neutral or not choosing sides”. Heath has stated all over the internet for years that he was going to start posting diabetic responses and to this day he has never followed thru with his statements. A couple of days ago I launched a new website at If you make the visit you might want to pay particular attention to the Breaking News at the bottom on the Julian Bakery page. Here is her website. The reason for the above post? Of course you would'nt [sic]....grains are grains...Diabetics beware, if you eat this stuff you're eating bread that will spike your blood sugar. I have no stake in the company what so ever . The brownie and cookie were not my favorite, but the bread and bagels are AMAZING. Off topic discussions will only be allowed in the Daily Community Support thread and will otherwise be removed and locked. They are either blatantly and falsely mis-labeled as in the case of Julian Bakery or the lists of ingredients are not correct and whoever labels the products can just put anything they want. Answer: ThinSlim's Zero Carb Bread is a keto-friendly alternative to wheat bread. This is the result on his blood sugar: Without the cheese the effect of the “Smart carb” bread was even more drastic… exactly the way usual bread acts. Well now there is, as I write, a class action lawsuit well underway. ThinSlim Foods Love the Taste Zero Carb Bagels are super low in calories, even lower in carbohydrates, and contain very slowly digesting ingredients. When this was written, 2011, this site didn't have a member option. Many others I have given my bread to ) I order 6-7-8 loves at a time) said the same thing. I have to add, they changed their formula and now there bread is spongy and does not taste as good as it use to. One of the chickenshit lawsuit charges was that I interfered with the Julian Bakery “contractual relationships” with WHOLE FOODS. I want a true label on a product-any product. Deborah Krueger Let’s compare it to the ingredients of low-carb bread from Thin Slim … LOW CARB Avocado Toast & Thin Slim Foods Bread Review - Duration: 9:27. lil Piece of Hart * … They are paid out of settlement proceeds because it is the attorney (or many attorneys) who do the work and post all the upfront monies. The problem with the analysis is that not matter low carb or not carbs are going to spike your blood glucose levels. I am a 20 year old, very active woman. I would be interested in your opinion on this product. Really? By testing I was able to learn how certain foods affect my blood sugar. Thank you for you diligence concerning this issue. My opinion was, why eat something that is just OK when I could eat things that taste amazing. If in July of 2011 the Julian Bakery had over 100,000 mostly DIABETIC CUSTOMERS how the hell many did he have another year later in July of 2012? If you're still searching for keto-friendly bread, look no further than ThinSlim … bonnie nelms Fiber 24g Fiber 8g “Net carb” usually means that someone is trying to sell you stuff by telling you a fairy tale. So the bottom line is: If Gary Collins (and others) is shilling for Julian Bakery (and Heath Squier) on Amazon why in the world would you believe Gary Collins in the interview mentioned above? Heath Squier of Julian Bakery may be up to his old tricks…again. Can I check if my ordered diet soft drink really is a diet soft drink? I latched on to Heath like a bulldog and didn’t let go. ThinSlim Foods : - Muffins Low Carb Keto Foods Brownies Cookies Bagels Squares Pizza Breads and Buns Chips Packs Pasta More Cakes low carb bread, low carb food, low carb bagels, low carb pasta, … CarbRite Sugar Free Brownie Mix - Low Carb Baking and Desserts - For Keto and Low Sugar Diets - Protein and High Fiber - Chocolate Brownie 4.0 out of 5 stars 3,202. Her nutritionist told her she could have 15 carbs a day - divided into her meals. l wheat gluten, modified wheat starch, flaxseed meal, chicory root, olive oil, yeast, salt, Apple Cider Vinegar.”. but I just never finished it. If you are on the Keto diet, we’ve got the scoop on their carb count! 6:15am 106 Herman Brot/Konig bread contains lupin, wheat protein and soy. Grains, sprouted or not, by virtue contain a high amount of carbs. Hate to pay full price if I don't like it lol, [–]bluffbuster72M 5'9" SW 267 CW 189 GW 175 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). Lots of people still want to believe that they can eat “Low Carb” bread without the problems of other bread. no one product works for everybody. or 49g. Maybe if you toasted the bread and slathered it with butter that would help. My friend lost 60 pounds in less than a year - and her sugar is under complete control. 3.a: Zero tolerance will be afforded to posts containing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or other identity-based slurs (i.e., insulting a person's ability/disability, looks, etc.). (I wish). not sure how to measure .42cup, hope recipe is flexible enough so that measurement doesn't have to be exact. Sami’s Bakery breads and bagels ARE NOT LOW CARB. Tastes good, acts like bread. I wasn’t getting any thanks then-only derision and pooh-poohs, and being denigrated and denied all over the internet. I agree with this. I don’t need or want his thanks. As we by all means are a COMPANY THAT IS TRUSTED by over 100,000 CUSTOMERS nationwide and MOST OF THEM ARE DIABETICS or customers that are on low carb diets. The plain bagels are excellent for sandwiches or toast when you are not into sweet or seeded. She claims her giant slices of cake (size of my head) are only about 200 calories, she says her HUGE, rich chocolate, and other flavored cake parfaits are 120 calories (for the entire thing), and that pretty much EVERYTHING she has is under 300. Helping people with diabetes, … Don’t you think all the people who might remotely be interested in the Julian Bakery fairy tales have already read this pithy crap? You Celiacs out there cannot eat this bread-it is full of gluten. i lost 25lbs eating 2-3 slices of this bread was like no other bread i've had before or since. Also it taste dryer and blander than real bread. (and like I said, I ate less than half of an item at a time, and counted each time I ate as double the calories of the whole "serving"). Low Carb Bagels. I BELIEVE this bread is low carb. My websites will stay up and I am free to write here today because Heath dismissed his own lawsuit, certainly not anything a plaintiff would ever normally do when they think they have a good case. I find your website to be a service to all those seeking the truth and I've bookmarked it. I'm not diabetic, but it's in my family so I only eat low carb. I'd eat this no more than 2 or 3 times a week because of that. Anyway, Jimmy Moore did a new test, eating only the bread and nothing else. It's the "just delicious diabetic bakery" in Clakamas OR. For a product you can buy from Heath…you can always buy it somewhere else and why not purchase legitimate products made by people who actually care about your health and…if anything were to go wrong, they would correct it. 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